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  • #31
    Did a little looking around the web for some good info on using O-Ring Lubricant and found this article to be very good.

    Molykote is the brand I'm used to using
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    • #32
      Originally posted by Hooded View Post
      Did a little looking around the web for some good info on using O-Ring Lubricant and found this article to be very good.

      Molykote is the brand I'm used to using
      Right on, that's the same article I ran into when you'd suggested it so I knew going in that the 3-1 spray wasn't an optimal thing but its what I had near by.

      So I think I've got the controller in mind picked out as this one:
      https://www.dazmode.com/store/shop/c...-splitter-pcb/

      I'd also seen this one on newegg, pricier but the supplementary power is a nice...meanwhile a lot of the reviews haven't been favourable but that could just be user error:
      https://www.newegg.ca/Product/Produc...40&ignorebbr=1

      So with both of these from what I understand I plug the 6 rad fans in and make sure at least one of them is in the 'lead' slot so that it responds to the speed governance that the 4th pin is meant for, all makes sense.

      Now I'm still pondering on how to deal with my front panel fans, they're a pair of 200mm 3pin, I thought they'd be 4 but here we are. So at minimum I'll buy a proper 3 pin Y cable, I figure if I plug that into one of these:
      https://www.dazmode.com/store/shop/c...former-single/
      I can get the PWM support for them that way.

      I swear I'd been so spoiled by my last two cases which both had built-in fan controllers with nice sliders (the NZXT Phantom), I'm rediscovering all these factors that enable you to control the fans speeds without such a thing.

      Btw I got the tubing run today, feel pretty proud of that but some take-aways learned specifically around the pump and the extra stuff I've got hanging off of it that lets the tubes lean in un-ideal ways. This experience has given me new inspiration for upgrades towards hard tubing to solve those sorts of problems. Particularly just the two longer runs in and out of the pump.
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      Still have to deal with that bundle of front panel & fan cables coming down the center, need to find some sleeve big enough to wrap around it.
      Last edited by BumpInTheNight; 01-11-2019, 12:54 AM.

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      • #33
        Oh yah, I bought and added this flow meter with the last purchase:
        https://www.dazmode.com/store/shop/w...th-rpm-sensor/

        For some reason it felt straight up incompatible with the EK brand fittings but had no trouble with the Darkside stuff, I just couldn't get an EK fitting to start threading with it. Is G1/4 sub-divided in some threading spec or am I just clumsy? For what its worth I could use either fittings/spacers/etc to attach to any of the other components I tried, just this flow reader that I couldn't get to work with the EK stuff.

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        • #34
          That long run between the rad and the pump's intake was bugging me all day, decided to flip the rads around and I'm much happier with it now. I'm also happier with breaking up that collection of stuff hanging off the pump output, bringing the flow gauge up beneath the rad and getting rid of a 90 degree in there is so much better.
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          • #35
            I just finished off the filling, whew that was nerve wracking I have maybe 50-100ml left from 1L of solution but we'll see after a day or two worth of the little bubbles make their was to the reservoir. Interesting tidbit is I could open my res without the pump running and the liquid didn't rush to fill it which I guess is a good sign eh? That let me do the fill/run/fill/run sequence without any risk of the pump running dry.

            So far so good! I'm still keeping the PSU out of the case and feeding the pump via the molex from a nearby table and won't be adding more power to it tonight.

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            • #36
              Originally posted by BumpInTheNight View Post

              So I think I've got the controller in mind picked out as this one:
              https://www.dazmode.com/store/shop/c...-splitter-pcb/

              I'd also seen this one on newegg, pricier but the supplementary power is a nice...meanwhile a lot of the reviews haven't been favourable but that could just be user error:
              https://www.newegg.ca/Product/Produc...40&ignorebbr=1

              So with both of these from what I understand I plug the 6 rad fans in and make sure at least one of them is in the 'lead' slot so that it responds to the speed governance that the 4th pin is meant for, all makes sense.

              Now I'm still pondering on how to deal with my front panel fans, they're a pair of 200mm 3pin, I thought they'd be 4 but here we are. So at minimum I'll buy a proper 3 pin Y cable, I figure if I plug that into one of these:
              https://www.dazmode.com/store/shop/c...former-single/
              I can get the PWM support for them that way.

              I swear I'd been so spoiled by my last two cases which both had built-in fan controllers with nice sliders (the NZXT Phantom), I'm rediscovering all these factors that enable you to control the fans speeds without such a thing.
              If you dont mind switches, I got one of these from Dazmode for one of my render slaves and it has been working very well for me. for the most part I leave it on low and when I need to render I just open the side door and flip the switch and leave it till Im done.
              https://www.dazmode.com/store/shop/c...n-with-switch/

              -dave

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              • #37
                Originally posted by dknourek View Post

                If you dont mind switches, I got one of these from Dazmode for one of my render slaves and it has been working very well for me. for the most part I leave it on low and when I need to render I just open the side door and flip the switch and leave it till Im done.
                https://www.dazmode.com/store/shop/c...n-with-switch/

                -dave
                Hey thanks for the advice Dave, I ended up buying those two controllers I'd linked and set them up. They're both working great and were very straight forward to install. In the end thanks to my insistence of having two rads my over all temperatures have been just awesomely good so I did a static setting of about 30% RPM on the rad fans and 25% on the two front fans and the pump is also running at about 25%. The CPU jumps and drops as one would expect but stays beneath 65. The GPU on the other hand is greatly benefiting from this setup - with the highest extra power I can push at it based on the firmware its been a stable 2150Mhz and never climbing over 44c, I have never seen a GPU run that cold while under full load. Liquid loops will be part of all my future systems.

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                • #38
                  Originally posted by BumpInTheNight View Post
                  Oh yah, I bought and added this flow meter with the last purchase:
                  https://www.dazmode.com/store/shop/w...th-rpm-sensor/

                  For some reason it felt straight up incompatible with the EK brand fittings but had no trouble with the Darkside stuff, I just couldn't get an EK fitting to start threading with it. Is G1/4 sub-divided in some threading spec or am I just clumsy? For what its worth I could use either fittings/spacers/etc to attach to any of the other components I tried, just this flow reader that I couldn't get to work with the EK stuff.
                  Ive recently had problems like that with some Barrow fittings I unfortunately bought on impulse as they were "on sale" lol. but I have 2 fittings out of the 10 I bought that wont thread in to anything properly so they got thrown in a ziplock and labled as buggered threads for me to look at down the road and maybe try to re-tap them or garbage them...

                  -dave

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                  • #39
                    Originally posted by BumpInTheNight View Post

                    Hey thanks for the advice Dave, I ended up buying those two controllers I'd linked and set them up. They're both working great and were very straight forward to install. In the end thanks to my insistence of having two rads my over all temperatures have been just awesomely good so I did a static setting of about 30% RPM on the rad fans and 25% on the two front fans and the pump is also running at about 25%. The CPU jumps and drops as one would expect but stays beneath 65. The GPU on the other hand is greatly benefiting from this setup - with the highest extra power I can push at it based on the firmware its been a stable 2150Mhz and never climbing over 44c, I have never seen a GPU run that cold while under full load. Liquid loops will be part of all my future systems.
                    Thats good to hear! Glad its running well for you.

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