Project Bahamut

[Danny79-Qc]

Forgot to mention, I received the new radiator and tubes last week... Thanks to Daz fast shipping processing and FedEx fast delivery service! Of course I moded the XE radiator to go with the rest!

I started to transfer the build into the Masterframe 700... real pain to drain the dual loop in the P8 lol! But managed to do it!
I finally made it to moving the motherboard... On a side note, I need to mention, during my test last week, I experienced a drop in the cpu flow speed. I thought the filter was doing it's job and starting to catch some crap but when I opened it, the net was perfectly fine! Even nothing in it from the cloud white coolant! Made me really satisfied!

The question is: what made the loop slow down like that???
Well... I have found the cause... And it's really bad... As I was moving the motherboard, I saw the jetplate in the monoblock was sideway!!! Yup, need to take out the monoblock from the motherboard, waste another sticker to reach the screws under it and open the block... soo passed. Anyways, I thought I'd just need to put the jetplate back in place but nope! No can do! Why? Because one of the two pins holding it in place is freaking gone!!!! I don't know how but it's broken. A rma block that broke already... What a Goodluck I've been having with this build! So many issues most people would've given up a long time ago haha


To finish that update, I have all the parts standing there while nothing else can be installed because I'm waiting on EK support reply after sending them the pictures, I need to get screws to mount the radiators and fans, need to design a support to install another radiator on the back and need to order a new vertical gpu mount. Specifically the Cooler Master one. But I'm broke right now! With my shitty health getting worse too, I'm really afraid I won't be able to get farther with the build..


Just one last picture to show the rear of the case. I had to move the front i/o so I can fit the radiator on top. And to show that obviously the cable management is gona be a real pain lol!!! I have to fit 2 × Corsair Commander Pro and 4 × egb hubs too!!! How?!?!? More modding is necessary I guess... too bad I don't have my repair shop anymore. I would have all the tools needed to complete the project... I'm passed!

[Danny79-Qc]

Like I said, going to show a couple steps of the case assembly and my opinions on it. By the way, the more I look at the build in the P8 the more I'm telling myself the name shouldn't be Projekt Bahamut but Captain Smurf!
But gota keep it related to the theme!

So let's get to why I'm posting another blah blah blah...
The Masterframe 700 is an open air case like I mentioned before. Finally something different!!! You'll see why I say that.
First, the materials. Great quality for sure. Very thick metal frame while still being lightweight enough.
Picture:
Yup that's once it's almost complete. Just missing the vertical gpu bracket, "which didn't come with it", and the front window.
So, the case is quite sturdy like I was saying. Good thing but brings the first issue... The 2 hinged doors have a bit too much thickness! I can't install my radiators because the screws coming with them are too short!!! And I'm out of 35mm ones. Gona need to order a bunch from Daz but I can't place an order and pay 35$ for shipping something worth less than that lol! So I need to wait for 3 weeks to place an order with Daz shop...

So let's keep moving for what's left to say...
The case have two building options. First, the one I'm showing you which will have 2 EK XE 360mm radiators and 2 TBE 300 reservoir/pump combo. On top but on the rear side will be a third 360mm radiator. Since it will be on the back side, air coming through will be cool. I'm working with a friend to 3d print some kind of bracket to be able to mount the fourth radiator on the rear but I don't think it will work. It is said Cooler Master added some kind of support for a 300mm radiator like you can see on the next picture but I didn't find anything in the box...

Weird radiator should I say... Anyways, also received the Phanteks vertical gpu bracket this week but haven't tested it to see if it fits.

Second use for this case is by installing it horizontally. You transform it into a test bench! Here's a picture!

Just need to install a couple parts differently and hop, test bench! My nephew won't have a use for that tho.

Here's a 3d picture of a radiator on top in bench mode. 2 little parts to hold the rad came in the box.

More pics to come...

[Danny79-Qc]

So, Cooler Master have released their newest case a couple weeks ago... I fell in love with it in their 2021 showcase. So I've been waiting on it ever since!

I was going to get one for one last project. Mine... if I can manage to get there.. Daz could confirm, I haven't been ordering much lately.. spending lots of my time at the hospital.. health took another big drop.. But let's not get into that more than I already did..

So released the case maybe two or three weeks ago? Haha guess who ordered one!
Was going to make it mine but with the recent event, I'm going to move Projekt Bahamut into it! So the case is.. the Masterframe 700! Picture and description bellow!


Yup! Pacha had to come give his approval again

So let's see... Has you can tell, it's premium quality. Even the packaging is superb. You can hold the box like it was a mallet... a heavy mallet that is lol but very light for a case. Reason it's not heavy like that is, it's an open air case! With a panoramic tempered glass on the front.

Next post will be about the depackaging and assembly with personal opinions about the Masterframe 700...

[Danny79-Qc]

Got almost everything to complete the build. But something happened...
After getting so close to complete it in the TT P8, I finally installed the windows on front and top panel.. less than 1cm between the fans and the glass! No way... it got almost no airflow.. imagine with 2 restrictive radiators!!! Not good at all! I cant offer a build like that... ran many tests and only way to get good temps is when I remove the tempered glass... what's the point of using a case if you can't have it completely assembled???

Last week I still managed an OC of 5.3GHz 1.36v with the 10850k. Didn't go all out on workload but it was stable and had decent temps while testing and benching in games like CP2077, Valhalla and Shadow of the tomb raider. Highest temps in those games and timespy was between 68° and 71°. Only downside... the freaking windows were off the case.. I could push it more but what's the point.. probably gona reach 5.4GHz but not sure if I will have to turn off HT.

Anyways.. I decided to go a different route....again... this is ridiculous people will say but I don't care.. Not gona give him a pc he has to open every times he power it on... the dust... the maintenance.. you get my point...

Solutions to come in the next post..

[Danny79-Qc]

Package received! Thanks Daz. Once again, very good and fast shipping!

[Danny79-Qc]

Watercool is generally my #1 choice, EK is always dead last. Only reason I went Alphacool this time around was because the TUFs are non-reference, so Watercool isn't making blocks for them, at least not yet. EK is hot garbage, so they're never an option. I'd sooner go Barrow over EK, and in fact just re-blocked the Radeon VII GPU in my home theatre PC with a Barrow block, since the EK Quantum Vector block that was on it was terrible performing trash, like most EK GPU blocks. At least Barrow appears to be made much better, high-grade Chinesium as opposed to EKs low-grade Chinesium, LOL! We shall see how it performs, rig isn't done yet.

You don't like EK and I don't like Borrowed and Bykski lol! but yeah watercool is my pick #1. Sadly, still no block so I went with EK. Temperature difference between all those blocks is marginal anyways and pretty sure it will be much better with that block than stock cooler or cheaper quality blocks. Placed my order Friday night with FedEx Priority so expecting to receive it this week or 24hours at most from the moment Daz will ship it. Can't wait. Would be nice to see an active backplate for those cards too but no info on that yet. I should ask Jake and see if they have plans for it.

Anyways, the babies are ordered at least!

[Bartacus]

Watercool is generally my #1 choice, EK is always dead last. Only reason I went Alphacool this time around was because the TUFs are non-reference, so Watercool isn't making blocks for them, at least not yet. EK is hot garbage, so they're never an option. I'd sooner go Barrow over EK, and in fact just re-blocked the Radeon VII GPU in my home theatre PC with a Barrow block, since the EK Quantum Vector block that was on it was terrible performing trash, like most EK GPU blocks. At least Barrow appears to be made much better, high-grade Chinesium as opposed to EKs low-grade Chinesium, LOL! We shall see how it performs, rig isn't done yet.

[Danny79-Qc]

No idea dude, I have most of that stuff turned off. I've barely done any gaming on my rig outside of benchmarking. I generally give zero poops about those AMD features, their new DLSS substitute doesn't interest me in the least. I have a powerful enough rig that I don't need silly resolution scaling tricks to boost my FPS. Plus I don't game at 4K, I game at 3840 x 1200 ultrawide, which is way easier on the hardware than 4K. I'm surprised you're getting stuttering though, I've benchmarked a few games with Freesync / vsync turned off and it's smooth as butter in Horizon Zero Dawn / Red Dead 2 benchmarks. I've just been too busy with work, and too tired at the end of the day to do much gaming.

FYI I bought an Alphacool block this time around, since Watercool wasn't covering the Asus TUF variants. Temps are great, GPU tops out at around 46C, junction temps top out at 64C. That's with the power limit upped from 272W to 385W, max clock set to 2750.

Hahaha, funny you decided to talk about the waterblock you picked. I was actually going to ask you exactly that. Like, which block you would recommend. Guess I have my answer lol. I know alphacool are good parts but that gpu block is not to my tastes. He's getting a complete EK build but I don't really like their amd blocks.

I know they are not the best but fell in love with the latest Phanteks blocks for the 30xx series. Haven't looked at it yet for the 6900xt and see if they have one tho. Watercool would be my second option but again, no research done so far. And let's not speak about Borrowed (Barrow) and Dyck-squee (Bykski). Haha. Some funny dude from Montreal came on EK fan page not long ago saying EK was stealing designs from Borrowed.. omg that was funny.. Attila and me teacher him wrong and then the dude kept doing drama with me in every other enthousiast groups. Didn't have any other choices but to block him. Not long after, another guy, selling Barrow/Bykski crap on his Websters tried to convince me they are better than every major manufacturers.. obviously he was just trying to fish. I was going to order a distroplate from him for nephew's build but after what he did, screw that. He lost a customer.

I don't game much either. I use them for testing more than anything. Funny the 3070 was running 2077 with better settings than the 6900xt. But pretty sure it's only because of dlss. AMD will be bringing 6 options to improve performances and visuals via a deep learning AI. Pretty sure it could be useful depending on your need.

Anyways, I can't wait to get him a waterblock. As soon as I get some money, it's my priority. If you think of a block other than Alphacool, please let me know!

[Bartacus]

No idea dude, I have most of that stuff turned off. I've barely done any gaming on my rig outside of benchmarking. I generally give zero poops about those AMD features, their new DLSS substitute doesn't interest me in the least. I have a powerful enough rig that I don't need silly resolution scaling tricks to boost my FPS. Plus I don't game at 4K, I game at 3840 x 1200 ultrawide, which is way easier on the hardware than 4K. I'm surprised you're getting stuttering though, I've benchmarked a few games with Freesync / vsync turned off and it's smooth as butter in Horizon Zero Dawn / Red Dead 2 benchmarks. I've just been too busy with work, and too tired at the end of the day to do much gaming.

FYI I bought an Alphacool block this time around, since Watercool wasn't covering the Asus TUF variants. Temps are great, GPU tops out at around 46C, junction temps top out at 64C. That's with the power limit upped from 272W to 385W, max clock set to 2750.

[Danny79-Qc]

Nah, not really. With this gen, I'm not sure how much difference there is between reference designs like you have and the non-reference, like the Asus TUF. I know Asus 'claims' to have beefed up the power delivery, but if we're going to be voltage locked (which we are right now), that probably won't matter much. Lets just hope Igor and the boys figure out how to crack that voltage. In the meantime, I will be content with my GPU clock touching 2700mhz and my memory clock maxxed out at 2150 with fast timings enabled.

Yeah, thats deffinately some nice tweaking. You make me wana OC it lol!

With FidelityFX update coming this month, you are really gona be happy. As long as AMD delivers.. Should come out on every platforms using their gpu's. Integrated or not. So if they mess up, we'll, let's not think about it lol.. But with things going to run smoother, I'm hoping temps will drop too. By the way, using AMD Chill, I managed to drop temps in the 80's ° highest. Have you compared those 3 options how it affect your gpu?

I'm actually testing his pc in 2077. Maybe you can help me out. No matter what I do, I either get bad fps with usage % going up and down or screen tearing. I'm on a Q90 which is 4k 120Hz and freesync. The issue is if I don't enable vsync, I get the tearing. If I enable it, fps drop to 52 and usage is pretty unstable. I'm really not used to AMD and Adrenalin. So any idea how I could fix that? Like, anything I should set on or off on either Adrenalin or TV settings?

[Bartacus]

Ouff 115°. Thats something! From what I've read, amd safe Level is 110° but I'm not 100% certain since I only read one article about that. Personally haven't hit those numbers. I won't play with OC until I get the waterblock tho. No point since it's not my pc haha. Is AMD like nvidia on Founders pcb? Like Founders 3080 would have a better one than most third party pcb? I'm deff not a AMD expert even I fix many of them lol

Nah, not really. With this gen, I'm not sure how much difference there is between reference designs like you have and the non-reference, like the Asus TUF. I know Asus 'claims' to have beefed up the power delivery, but if we're going to be voltage locked (which we are right now), that probably won't matter much. Lets just hope Igor and the boys figure out how to crack that voltage. In the meantime, I will be content with my GPU clock touching 2700mhz and my memory clock maxxed out at 2150 with fast timings enabled.

[Danny79-Qc]

That's one thing AMD has always had over Nvidia, the image and color quality on the Radeons look way better. My hot spot was hitting 115C (after using MPT to bump up the power limit). Stock wasn't so bad. But stock clocks weren't 2700mhz either.

Ouff 115°. Thats something! From what I've read, amd safe Level is 110° but I'm not 100% certain since I only read one article about that. Personally haven't hit those numbers. I won't play with OC until I get the waterblock tho. No point since it's not my pc haha. Is AMD like nvidia on Founders pcb? Like Founders 3080 would have a better one than most third party pcb? I'm deff not a AMD expert even I fix many of them lol

[Bartacus]

That's one thing AMD has always had over Nvidia, the image and color quality on the Radeons look way better. My hot spot was hitting 115C (after using MPT to bump up the power limit). Stock wasn't so bad. But stock clocks weren't 2700mhz either.

[Danny79-Qc]

Get that thing underwater ASAP. I managed to nab an Asus TUF 6900XT, and it's a typical AMD GPU: it needs water to live, just like us. :-)

Yeah. AMD at it's finest! Heat heat heat! No Wonder I changed team so many years ago lol. But it's not that bad now. Managed to set up things decently. Not getting past 75° on gpu but hotspot still hits the 95°. Will get the block in a couple weeks. Broke right now! Also finally having 2077 running smoothly so I think I have something solid now! Gosh Judy is soo hawt on the 6900xt compared to the 3070!!!

[Bartacus]

Get that thing underwater ASAP. I managed to nab an Asus TUF 6900XT, and it's a typical AMD GPU: it needs water to live, just like us. :-)